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	<title>Comments on: Do You Really Know Where You Are?</title>
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		<title>By: cmclau02</title>
		<link>http://blog.epa.gov/bigbluethread/2012/08/do-you-really-know-where-you-are/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>cmclau02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a process and an interesting one since most government data that I&#039;ve seen is not natively created in the Web Mercator projection.  At some point, processing speed may be sufficient enough so that the consuming software projects &quot;on the fly&quot; (ESRI&#039;s ArcGIS does this) and the end user doesn&#039;t notice anything.  With the emphasis on mobile technology right now, speed is a critical design element.  Projection comes into play quite often when reviewing different aerial photography since major vendors do it slightly differently and there isn&#039;t always perfect agreement between them.  I don&#039;t get to do much of it, but there is certainly still reason for ground truthing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a process and an interesting one since most government data that I&#8217;ve seen is not natively created in the Web Mercator projection.  At some point, processing speed may be sufficient enough so that the consuming software projects &#8220;on the fly&#8221; (ESRI&#8217;s ArcGIS does this) and the end user doesn&#8217;t notice anything.  With the emphasis on mobile technology right now, speed is a critical design element.  Projection comes into play quite often when reviewing different aerial photography since major vendors do it slightly differently and there isn&#8217;t always perfect agreement between them.  I don&#8217;t get to do much of it, but there is certainly still reason for ground truthing!</p>
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		<title>By: Tomo Krajina</title>
		<link>http://blog.epa.gov/bigbluethread/2012/08/do-you-really-know-where-you-are/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomo Krajina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must confess that I&#039;m guilty, too :) I&#039;m not a GIS specialist but a web developer with few sites (for example &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.trackprofiler.com/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TrackProfiler&lt;/a&gt;) using some mapping features. I do remember about Mercator from elementary school. But Google maps was too easy to set up and I didn&#039;t investigate the alternatives at the moment. I would like to have something else other than Mercator, but for the problem is that web tools at the moment aren&#039;t ready :( I &lt;b&gt;can&lt;/b&gt; create non Mercator maps as a static images, but I&#039;d like my users to have zoom, drag-and-drop, editable maps, etc.

Maybe with more modern browsers (still to come) one day...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must confess that I&#8217;m guilty, too <img src='http://blog.epa.gov/bigbluethread/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m not a GIS specialist but a web developer with few sites (for example <a  href="http://www.trackprofiler.com/">TrackProfiler</a>) using some mapping features. I do remember about Mercator from elementary school. But Google maps was too easy to set up and I didn&#8217;t investigate the alternatives at the moment. I would like to have something else other than Mercator, but for the problem is that web tools at the moment aren&#8217;t ready <img src='http://blog.epa.gov/bigbluethread/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  I <b>can</b> create non Mercator maps as a static images, but I&#8217;d like my users to have zoom, drag-and-drop, editable maps, etc.</p>
<p>Maybe with more modern browsers (still to come) one day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cmclau02</title>
		<link>http://blog.epa.gov/bigbluethread/2012/08/do-you-really-know-where-you-are/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>cmclau02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is interesting that we all follow behind the platform providers instead of demanding we use the best projection -- of course the &quot;best&quot; projection really depends on your project needs.  I think you&#039;re right about why the popular vendors are using the Web Mercator projection -- speed....which is why most developers make their web maps in Web Mercator since it makes our maps faster.  If users must wait for something to load they&#039;ll probably move onto something else.  There is a great clip from West Wing about the social implications of using the Mercator map -- its hilarious.  The point is really that just because map making is easier (and GIS in general) doesn&#039;t excuse users from knowing about the projection they&#039;re using and what some pitfalls might be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that we all follow behind the platform providers instead of demanding we use the best projection &#8212; of course the &#8220;best&#8221; projection really depends on your project needs.  I think you&#8217;re right about why the popular vendors are using the Web Mercator projection &#8212; speed&#8230;.which is why most developers make their web maps in Web Mercator since it makes our maps faster.  If users must wait for something to load they&#8217;ll probably move onto something else.  There is a great clip from West Wing about the social implications of using the Mercator map &#8212; its hilarious.  The point is really that just because map making is easier (and GIS in general) doesn&#8217;t excuse users from knowing about the projection they&#8217;re using and what some pitfalls might be.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomo Krajina</title>
		<link>http://blog.epa.gov/bigbluethread/2012/08/do-you-really-know-where-you-are/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomo Krajina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 04:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think another reason why Mercator hasn&#039;t changed that much with the digital era is the web. Specifically google maps -- it is easier (for google) to store and compute the map with images as rectangle files. With better browser support for vector imaging and better Javascript image manipulation capabilities -- this should change. I hope :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think another reason why Mercator hasn&#8217;t changed that much with the digital era is the web. Specifically google maps &#8212; it is easier (for google) to store and compute the map with images as rectangle files. With better browser support for vector imaging and better Javascript image manipulation capabilities &#8212; this should change. I hope <img src='http://blog.epa.gov/bigbluethread/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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